windows 7 - Is it possible to detect a virus with taskmanager?

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2014-04
  • user1344545

    If I would have a running virus on my system, would I be able to see the process in taskmanager? I mean, would it be possible for a running virus to circumvent the taskmanager so the process doesn't appear in the tasklist of windows7?

    Or in other words. If I really now all the processes in taskmanager to be secure, I also know that my PC is clean?

  • Answers
  • Jonathan Baldwin

    No, not usually. It is possible for Task Manager (and other parts of the operating system) to themselves be compromised, thus hiding the virus. This is called a rootkit.

    If I really now all the processes in taskmanager to be secure
    

    You can never know all the processes in taskmanager to be secure. Virii use names of system components for a reason, sometimes even displacing them.

    Use an antivirus.

  • user2301394

    It is not possible to detect virus from task manager.

    There are several kind of virus. Virus, Trojan, rootkit, adware/puk etc. Some virus hide themselves from task manager.So, it doesn't appear in task manager.

    I would suggest you to stop looking in task manager and install antivirus.

    How can I: Access Windows® Event Viewer?

    1. Press Image+ R and type “eventvwr.msc” and click OK or press Enter.
    2. Expand Windows Logs, and select Security.
    3. In the middle you’ll see a list, with Date and Time,Source, Event ID and Task Category. The Task Category pretty much explains the event, Logon, Special Logon, Logoff and other details.
  • akira

    An antivirus detects only so and so much ("During 4Q11, 33 percent of Web malware encountered was zero-day malware not detectable by traditional signature-based methodologies at the time of encounter", source: http://blogs.cisco.com/security/cisco-4q11-global-threat-report/ ).

    With a bit of training you can detect some malware because they behave in a certain way that is a bit off to whats usual on the OS. It might be more network traffic, more cpu usage, strange disk accesses or something else. Malware are not only available as single binaries which are detectable via a taskmanager but also as dynamic libraries (dll) attached to other processes.

    You can get clues about what is running on your system with a taskmanager like Process Explorer from the Sysinternal Suite, and you can watch things happen on your system with something like Process Monitor of the same suite. Get used to the tools and watch for signs of "strangeness":

    • Unsigned binaries (executables or dlls)
    • Strange writes to strange files
    • Strange network activity

    (The "strange" part is the training you need in order to distinguish between "that's normal" and "that is strange")

    The author of the Sysinternal Suite shows some clever ways to use the above mentioned tools:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7heEYEbFim4

    So, yes, you can detect some of the malware with a decent task manager. The less sophisticated the malware is, the easier it will be to detect. If the malware tries to detect the use of task managers like Process Explorer you might need to even take advanced steps such as using a different "Session" to detect strange behavior but it is still possible.

  • oldmud0

    Viruses are quite sophisticated nowadays. That means that they may hide themselves from Task Manager, run multiple copies of themselves (in case one copy gets taken down), and many more tricks. By definition, viruses also inject themselves to system processes in order to conceal themselves.

    Malware in general can usually be detected pretty easily just by identifying an unusual process that's running. But viruses specifically usually can only be identified by their payload injected onto the target process.

    So an antivirus is really the only thing that can accurately detect... well... a virus!


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    the checked one keeps coming back. do I "fix" the other ones that say "its probably nasty" but rated safe?


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  • William Hilsum

    The most likely cause (but not only) in a laptop randomly freezing is due to hard drive failure or motherboard failure.

    If you have a Windows Vista or 7 disk, use it and click repair, then go to the command prompt and type the following:

    chkdsk c: /f
    

    see if it comes back with any errors. If it does, I advise changing your Hard drive ASAP, If it doesn't, you probably have something else wrong which is usually component on the motherboard failing and there is no easy fix.

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  • harrymc

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    I haven't seen any red flags in your image, and I would suggest against using hijackthis, as unless you know exactly what you're doing, it's easy enough to destroy your Windows installation with one click.

    If your computer keeps on freezing, you may use a rescue live-CD virus scanner such as Avira AntiVir Rescue System (updated several times a day and so the download CD is up-to-date). As a boot CD it doesn't need Windows to be functioning.

    If this doesn't find anything, I suggest that you try to rollback Windows to a system restore point dating from before you used hijackthis, and avoid using this utility in the future.

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  • kmarsh

    An alternative to a Live CD is pulling your hard drive, and using a IDE/SATA to USB converter to attach it to a clean system and use that system's A/V to deworm your hard drive.