hardware failure - Pc consumes 13W also when PSU is switched off

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2014-04
  • T30

    I noticed that my pc consumes 13W also when PSU is switched off.

    So I opened the PSU and I found a yellow box directly connected with the plug's socket, before the on-off button.

    This yellow box has connected two little cables and a resistor, and it's approximately 2x2x1 cm.

    I removed it and pc seems to work properly. What could it be?

  • Answers
  • x22

    The yellow box is likely a capacitor for filtering electromagnetic interference (X capacitor).

    It can't consume 13W because it does not have large enough surface area to dissipate 13W of heat and does not have a heatsink (so it would burn if it really consumed that much) and capacitors should not consume energy.

    The resistor is used to discharge the potentially dangerous charge in the capacitor after disconnecting power, it consumes some power but it should be only a fraction of watt (otherwise it would burn).

    Update:

    Removing X capacitor may cause instability or earlier failure of PC power supply. It may also negatively affect other devices due to more interference going from the PC to power lines.


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    Your best bet may be to try and get USB powered devices as these don't need their own power bricks. But there is a limit to what you can draw on these.

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    Alternatively, if aesthetics is an issue, then hide the whole lot in the closet.