windows 7 - Problems with fresh Win 7 install on a Hybrid SSD drive

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2014-04
  • ingodav

    I have recently purchased a Samsung Series 5 Ultrabook (Model no: NP530U3C-A0JSE). It came with Windows 8 installed but I am trying to make a fresh install of Windows 7.

    I made a mistake in the setup and accidentally deleted all the partitions on the SSD drive. Now when I try to install Windows 7, on the main (non-SSD) partition, the install seems to run fine until it restarts and the goes back to the initial config screen of the installation process. The system is the unable to boot from the hard drive. Not sure if that is to be expected or not.

    My question is, what is my move? I assume my trouble is because of the HDD configuration being wrong. Can I configure the HDD manually before or during the Win 7 setup or should I try to go back to Windows 8 and take it from there?

  • Answers
  • TKEyi60

    The very first thing I'd check is making sure your boot order has the HD at the top in the BIOS. That way if you leave the CD or thumbdrive in it will not boot from those first.

    Second, make sure when you reboot that you remove the extra media (the boot CD and/or thumbdrives). If you've set your boot order then this shouldn't matter but it's always good to just narrow the options.

    And the final check is to see if you're trying to install from an upgrade disk. A fresh install can be done from an upgrade disk but it will fail the first time, reboot, and make you go through the whole process again. It will work the second pass so you can check that as well.

    As long as you're following all the prompts for the install, then windows should take care of the rest as far as the configuration and partitioning of the hard drive. One thing you could do if you really wanted (but I don't think you need to) is boot from a different OS (Hiren's, Ubuntu, etc...) and wipe/clean the HD from there. That will make sure you have a blank HD.


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    First, make sure the new drive is configured correctly in the bios (is it actually being detected (which i would assume it is as your already trying to install to it!), is it set to AHCI mode). If all is well, you could try to install from a USB device instead of a disk, using UNetbootin:

    http://www.addictivetips.com/windows-tips/install-windows-7-from-usb-drive-requires-2-simple-steps/

    Hope this helps.

  • Bon Gart

    What could the issue be?

    • It could be a failing Optical drive.
    • It could be bad Ram.
    • It could be a bad SSD.
    • It could be a bad burning drive (burning bad install discs).

    In a perfect world, I would have taken the 160gb drive (which hadn't failed yet if I read your question correctly), I would have reduced the size of the partition to smaller than 128gb, and I would have cloned that onto the SSD from another computer... but then again, I have all the equipment to be able to connect both those drives to another computer. This would bypass any potential RAM issues, optical drive issues, etc.

    You can try testing the RAM on the target machine with Memtest86, or just booting to a LiveCD of Linux like Linux Mint. Booting to Mint isn't foolproof, but it does encompass a few tests... if the target machine optical drive is at fault (or the burning machine optical drive), you most likely wouldn't reach a desktop in Mint, or if the target machine RAM was at fault, you most likely would not be able to run a stable OS out of that RAM. At any rate, these steps help you eliminate possibilities. They ALSO cost far less than getting ANOTHER hard drive just to see what might be wrong. Wouldn't it stink if you bought another hard drive, and it turned out to be the burning drive on the machine you've been making these discs on?

    It is unlikely that it is a setting in the BIOS, because you shouldn't have had to change anything in order to use the SSD.