cpu - Thermal paste was installed on my new heatsink. Does it need to get re-applied if I remove it?

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2014-04
  • Kris

    I just installed a new i5 Sandy Bridge on an Asus P67 Sabertooth board. When I first turned it on, I received a Bios error stating there was a CPU overheating issue. I was able to navigate to the Bios settings, and the temp said 100ºC. That's obviously wrong because the computer was only on for less than a minute.

    So, I ignored it and tried installing windows, etc.

    I got nervous though as I read more with how bad or nonexistent thermal paste and burn out a CPU. I didn't apply any thermal paste because the heatsink came with stuff already on it. But I got nervous it wasn't properly applied, so I removed the heatsink. I saw that it was applied for the most part, and saw no issue, so immediately put the heatsink back on the CPU.

    Now -- my question:

    Do I need to scape off the stock thermal paste and apply my own since I removed the heatsink for a few seconds, or will I be fine?

    Some data points:

    • using RealTemp, my CPU was clocking around 33ºC consistently.
    • the stock thermal paste spread over about 2/3rds of the CPU.
  • Answers
  • Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams

    Unless the paste looked like a dog's breakfast after separating them, there will probably be no need to clean it off and reapply. Of course, if it looks too clean then it may be that the protective plastic was never removed from the layer of paste in the first place...

  • Captain

    It does not sound like a thermal paste problem... If you have removed the heat-sink multiple times it is advised you clean and re-apply thermal paste especially if you did not twist the heat-sink as you pulled it off discharging any vacuum that may have formed, because what will happen is the thermal paste will form bubbles in that already thin layer and then will act negatively as to the job it was there to complete in the first place...

    Now for what I think your real problem is, your heat-sink should have some sort of 2, 3, or 4 pin connection to plug into your motherboard and it should be plugged in to the CPU_FAN slot or your computer will fail to realize that you have a heat-sink on your CPU and think there is a fire in your case often showing temps between 80C and 100C. So make sure it is plugged into the correct spot and if you don't have a plugin then you will need to disable it in your BIOS.

  • kobaltz

    It really depends on how much I like the computer. If it's an older one that I don't care too much for, I would take Ignacio's suggestion. However, if it is my main workstation then I would reapply the thermal paste. Laptops, I always replace the thermal paste. Clean off the old ones with some firm cotton swabs and Denatured Alcohol.

  • Amos M. Carpenter

    [...] the temp said 100ºC. That's obviously wrong because the computer was only on for less than a minute.

    I wouldn't be too quick to jump to conclusions. According to Arctic Silver's thermal paste application instructions:

    A modern high-performance CPU can be permanently damaged in less than 10 seconds without proper cooling.

    I doubt that's just scare-mongering; the heat that is generated in a CPU these days is enormous, that's why heatsinks are so huge these days and why modern cases have multiple fans.

    Thermal paste isn't that expensive and you usually get it in quantities that will allow several applications (a very thin layer will do), but it needs to be there between your CPU and heatsink/fan, so I wouldn't mess around and hope the board's temperature sensors are wrong, just apply it correctly and you should be fine. I've found using an old credit card or similar works well to firstly remove left overs of old paste (if any) and secondly to spread the new paste evenly and to make sure it gets into all those microscopic little irregularities.

    Another tip, but of course that may not be everyone's thing: if your machine tends to overheat after running Windows for a while, try installing Linux, it's much gentler on CPU demand in my experience. I've saved a few machines this way that I would otherwise have had to dismantle or throw away.


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  • Zero

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  • Shoeless

    The thermal paste is there to provide good heat conductivity between the CPU and the heatsink. If you separate the two, it is best for you to reapply some thermal paste (VERY thin layer) in order to maintain good thermal contact between the two.

    I usually prefer to clean both the heat sink and the CPU with a q-tip and some alcohol before reapplying thermal paste... and I have never experienced any problems doing so but I can't really recommend doing so in case either your heat sink or CPU does not like alcohol :)

  • menns

    Can you? Yes

    Should you? Probably not. Do you really want to risk it? A tube of thermal paste costs 15$ at a computer repair shop and is good for several applications.

  • Darok

    I basically fried my CPU back in Dec 08 and needed to buy a new one due to the fact that, I didn't replace the thermal compound. It was something that I greatly regret and whenever someone now says, "no thermal compound is needed", I would laugh at them and their fried CPU if they actually did replace the heat sink without the thermal compound. It just isn't worth taking the risk! I did and where did it get me?