Which computer components become legacy the quickest?
2014-07
Dennis
I'm planning on building a new computer, but money is sort of tight. I follow a few websites and occasionally find incredibly good deals on components. So, I'm considering slowly acquiring the parts over the next year, just snagging something when the price is right.
In order to do this, however, I'd want to know the rate at which various components become superseded by new models. If I knew that component X only had about a year until it was superseded by component Y, then I'd wait to purchase component X last and get the newest model available.
So, which computer components in your standard (high-end) Desktop are the quickest to be superseded by new models?
Primary Uses of Computer: gaming, some light programming, casual use (e.g., web browsing)
Virusboy
Motherboards are considered the fasted to be considered Legacy. There is a new better functioning model coming out every week or month. And since Motherboards get the least love they will be the first to get the Legacy title. But functionally wise, it'll work for a couple years. The next thing to be tossed into the Legacy scrap pile is CPU chips. Intel and AMD have a bad habit of crapping something out either every Quarter or Every 6 months and immediately putting older chips that have been out for a year in Legacy mode. Graphics cards are next while every day a newer better more robust card does come out, legacy support doesn't start until year 5. With supported updated starting to die in the last 3 years of production.
NickAldwin
I'm building a new computer over the summer. I'm fairly competent in computer hardware, and am thus building the computer from scratch. I have everything planned out, but I was wondering if I should consider RAID, and if so, which RAID to use. I plan to purchase 2x1TB drives. Currently I'm leaning toward RAID 1 for the redundancy -- I've heard newer super-capacity drives fail more often than one would think, and I don't want to have a problem and lose all my data. What do you think? My mobo supports RAID 0/1/5/10. Is it worth it to use RAID at all, or should I just use a backup service like Mozy? Should I consider RAID 0 instead, for the performance? I'm kind-of going back and forth on this one. Thanks a lot for your help.
EDIT: I'd like to avoid the OS drive different from Data drive situation, because that can get frustrating when programs like to store a lot of data in their program files folder. I've lived with that situation before and it gets annoying after a while.
Robert Munteanu
If data loss is your concern, please remember that RAID is not backup. I suggest you invest in some form of backup, whether it's a 'cloud' solution or a simple rsync job to another computer.
This way, you can have your RAID 0 for performance as well.
Jason w
Be aware that even if you are mirroring drives, the raid controller itself is a single point of failure.
sblair
It may be worth considering using an SSD as the OS/applications drive, for excellent performance (see Anandtech for a review of the latest Intel X25-M drive).
I opted for this, with two non-RAID HDDs for data (plus an external drive for backup), which works well.
John McC
On the desktop RAID allows you to keep working through a hard drive failure and fix it at your convenience. And perhaps saving some work since the last backup.
However, in my experience, if you have proper backups, RAID for workstations just isn't worth the bother. The rebuilds are often not trouble free and the rest of the PC is a bunch of single points of failure, many of which can trash the disk anyway - memory, power, motherboard.
The RAID controller is a single point of failure. If it goes you have to be able to replace it with the same or compatible controller or you lose the array anyway. If it's a motherboard controller are you going to be able to get a compatible replacement in 2 years time? Assuming it didn't take the array with in when it failed.
RAID isn't a backup strategy - there's no substitute for real backups. Something like, say, at least 3 external drives and backup software that gets everything and can do a bare metal restore is where you should start. You didn't say what OS you have, but there are good options for Windows Linux and Mac. And if you do it right the recovery is quick and sure.
JP Alioto
I generally buy two fast drives (10K RPM) that are relatively small and run them in RAID 0 (stripe) for my OS partition and two large drives (7200 RMP) in a RAID 1 (mirror) for my data partition. That way, if I lose a drive in the striped array, I just rebuild my OS and my data is protected by the mirror. Of course, that requires 4 drives, where you could do a RAID 5 with 3 drives, but in my mind, it's the easiest.
Mike Lewis
Do not bother. unless you're going to spend a pretty penny on a nice RAID card YOU WILL REGRET IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! raid systems built into consumer motherboards are shotty at best and completely unsupported.
RAIDS are only good for drives that die. file corruptions and the like are not prevented with a raid.
With the average lifespan of a hard drive being about 7 years you're better off just getting an SSD for your OS and page file and just a couple TB drives for data.
if you're insistent on doing a RAID I would do a RAID 5 using 3 drives and a 4th as a spare.(or if you get a good raid card 4 drives in the raid and a 5th for spare) it's a good combination of speed and reliability.
ALSO: keep in mind you should NEVER EVER for sake of performance keep your page file on a RAID of any kind (except a mirror where ALL drives are identical in every way). An operating system is constantly writing and reading the page file and all the added math and overhead it takes to write it to a RAID will degrade your performance.
Paul McMillan
Use a small drive as your system drive, and then mount your larger drive within your smaller drive under a folder. Then it looks to your programs as if they're storing data on the C drive, while it's actually getting stuck on your big cheap media drive.
Windows XP and above have this capability.
Matias Nino
Only use RAID if you have a network computer, or NAS, or external drive that can store automated image backups of your system partition. That way when your RAID volume craps out (which it will) you can just restore from the last image backup.
As for RAID 1 (mirror) vs 0 (stripe): It's basically a matter of performance vs downtime during drive failure.
RAID 1 will sacrifice the 2x write performance, but gain you the ability to just pop another drive in when one drive fails without any downtime.
RAID 0 will give you 2x write performance (which is nice), but if a drive fails you will be down until you can pop another drive in and restore from an image backup.
Ghostrider
Don't do anything other than RAID-1 at home unless your data is backed up. Been there, done that. RAID-1 is great because you can take any of two disks (or more than two if you are feeling paranoid) and use it as regular non-RAID disk to get your data. So if your controller fails - no big deal. RAID-1 can also increase your read performance since data can be read in stripes from two drives just like in RAID-0
Tried RAID-5 to get both speed, space and redundancy... Well because of faulty controller two out of four drives went offline in my array and it fell apart. It was extremely hard to put it back together. I managed to salvage my documents and photos but the operating system was gone.
Here's what I have setup right now: Desktop PC is backed up daily to WHS (Windows Home Server), photos folder is manually replicated to redundant share on the same WHS (in theory it should survive failure of I HDD on WHS), all shares from WHS are regularly backed up to an external HDD, and finally shares with sensitive data like photos are backed up to Amazon S3 via Jungle Disk.