Audio recording background noise

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2014-07
  • Sergey

    For a long time time I've been trying to get rid of the background noise that appears in every audio recording I make with my computer. Tried different microphones, different sound setting, drivers.

    Interesting fact - the volume of this sound is equal whether I use and internal notebook microphone or an external one. I tried really good mics, so I'm sure the problem is not in it.

    Laptop on which this problem appears in HP Probook 4720. OS - Windows 7.

    P.S. Read an answer to a similar question: Annoying sound from microphone in headphone. Tried everything that was mentioned there. Only I don't have a "DC Offset Cancellation option". And when I disable "Noise Suppression" and "Acoustic Echo Cancellation", noise only becomes more noticeable.

    What should I do?

    EDIT: Example of the background noise I'm describing: http://eos-soft.com/files/noise.wma.

  • Answers
  • therobyouknow

    I think you have 2 options:

    1. following on from @slhck's suggestion you should consider an external, say USB-based, audio recording device, however you should also consider noise caused by ground-loop/earth loop. Here's a test for you: unplug your laptop from the mains, do you get as much noise or is it reduced when unplugged? If reduced noise when unplugged, then ground-loop is contributing to the noise. This is fairly common and not a fault as such (nature of the equipment really) and can be remedied by ground-loop isolation such as a ground-lift box or DI-injection box, common low cost pieces of kit from people like Behringer.

    2. Don't use the laptop at all for recording, instead use a standalone digital flash-memory based recorder (this is the better option of the 2), one that can accept an external mic if required, such as the Panasonic RR-XS410 for around 50$ / 50 pounds on ebay. Also Olympus models. A 3.5inch jack to XLR mic adapter is available from audiospares.com The recordings can be transfered into the laptop, for editing, by USB, and with Panasonic via the microSD card as well. These recorders record high bitrate mp3 and the panasonic also records wav.

    Finally have a look at audio discussions on soundonsound.com and also the audio recording stackexchange site.

  • slhck

    Interesting fact - the volume of this sound is equal whether I use and internal notebook microphone or an external one

    This, in conjunction with the fact that you're using a laptop only leads to one possible solution. You need to buy an external sound card or an audio interface. The problem is that built-in sound cards need to amplify the signal that comes in from the microphone. When they amplify the signal, they also amplify the noise that is sent with the microphone. There will always be a certain noise level.

    However, since the sound card is on the mainboard and close to other devices such as a CD/DVD drive, a Wi-Fi antenna, spinning fans, these will generate interferences as well, which will then be amplified by the sound card.

    This is why changing the microphone does not make a difference. Its signal will have to pass through the sound card.

    "Background noise" is very generic, but unless you can post an example that shows a different kind of noise, I'd say this is the problem. I've experienced it on many laptops that are improperly shielded.

  • Dennis

    I record and post a lot of speech in an amateur setting and on one system there is always the exact same signal. The guys who record it tried everything made it much better but never totally gone, finally I just decided to make taking it out part of the post recording process. No doubt any software has the same tools, but I use Audacity and have found the noise removal tool to be invaluable. I just select a second of silence to get the signal profile, then select the whole track and repeat the filter. 3 clicks and a few seconds later I have a clean track. PS if you are doing speech and haven't seen Levelator it is magic. Of course if you are working on producing music neither of these will probably be what you need.

  • Deanna Burkett

    I had a terrible, constant hum, and I followed therobyouknow"s advice copied below:

    however you should also consider noise caused by ground-loop/earth loop. Here's a test for you: unplug your laptop from the mains, do you get as much noise or is it reduced when unplugged? If reduced noise when unplugged, then ground-loop is contributing to the noise.

    I am using a usb mic to record voice audio in garage band. I unplugged my computer and went to battery power. This totally eliminated the hum. Thanks!!!

  • Marcks Thomas

    As suggested by others, it is advisable to record using an external sound card. A USB sound card will solve the problem. This one is purely noiseless and capable to handle XLR or phono mics. Second part is to avoid surroundings noise; switch off fans, AC and you should have sound proof rooms. Even while recording in professional studios we face noise problems. For that you can use noise remover plugins and finally the kind of software you use for recording.


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  • Questioner

    I used to record important technical meetings and demos using Camtasia Studio, using a Mic to capture the speaker voice.

    Sometimes we invite attendees by asking them to call us in the meeting, and they would call on a cell phone then we switch it to loudspeaker so we can hear and talk to them and also record the conversation on Camtasia.

    The problem I am having now is that playing back those recording produces the regular noise that results from the microphone being close to the mobile phone (the kind of noise you hear when your mobile phone rings and it is near a speaker).

    Any advice on removing this noise?


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  • Sam Merrell

    Audacity would work great to edit out the noise from the cell phone. It has a filter that you can give it a sample of the noise you want to remove and then you can apply it to the recording to remove (as best as it can) the sound from the recording. You will have to probably try it several times to get it right, and it won't remove it completely, but it should help quite a bit.

    Audacity also has several other filters and tools to help remove general noise from a recording which should help with the quality as well. Hope that helps.

  • Mikeage

    Just use ferrite beads on your wiring. Never solve a hardware problem in software if you can avoid it.

  • Bruce McLeod

    Bias soundsoap works great for removing this type of noise and even just lowering the regular noise floor that occurs with most recording devices. It comes both as a plug-in and as a stand alone application.

  • Burkhard

    You could use a filter on the recording. If I remember well, a low-pass filter should do the trick.

  • Jas Panesar

    try out something like:

    audible (mac)

    soundforge (pc) cool edit pro (pc)

    the latter should do it real well. you will likely have to build a custom ex to cut out at certain frequencies to first locate, then isolate and reduce the noise. chances are good it will only be a few orders of magnitude better and not perfect, but it should get the job done.

  • Travis

    You definitely need some sort of software to filter out the noise. Some of the other answers here can address that.

    If you're still doing the recordings and need to stop the cell phone interference, use ferrite beads near the base of each speaker.

    By the way, just in case anyone is curious, these can be used for small desktop speakers, too.